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Тред №147093

17 сен 2009 в 12:00   kurill
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Цитата: anester
Уважаемый Кирилл, а не выложите источник стенограммы переговоров F-15 при сбитии сербских мигов. А то товарищи из "средиземья" сомневаются



Цитата: kirill от 14.09.2009 09:08:55

Ночные съемки обломков, которые обозвали «МиГ-29», на самом деле это топливные баки с Ф-15С с надписями «ANNUAL INSP C/W» и «600 US gallons» 26 Марта 1999 года в бою участвовали Ф-15С с номерами 84-0014(Captain McMurray) и 86-0156 (Captain Hwang's). Обнаружение радарами мигов произошло на дальности 30 морских миль (54 км) курсовой угол цели 14 градусов в лево. Группа довернула на 30 градусов в лево для перехвата и врубили форсаж набрав скорость больше маха.
С другой стороны, СЛОБОДАН ПЕРИЋ и ЗОРАН РАДОСАВЉЕВИЋ на своих мигах пересекли границу Боснии на высоте 900 метров и с углом в 60 градусов на полном форсаже набрали высоту 8000 метров, после чего с получили с земли сообщение, что синие в 50 км от вас на 1 час. Через некоторое время они увидели 4 белых следа от ракет. Летчики «побежали в облака» . После чего приступили к поиску целей, но неожиданно получили попадания ракет. Предполагают, что это могли быть кубы.
Стенограмма интервью сербских сбитых в Боснии летчиков после войны (на сербском)


Новости следующего дня со сбитыми мигами.





Переговоры АВАКСА с Ф-15С, которые сбили МиГи

Translation of the audio.

'MAGIC 77 (AWACS)
DIRK FLIGHT (2-ship F-15C.)
Magic 77 (AWACS): "All players, Magic-77 ... Magic clean, zero,
zero-three-zero, 45.[unintelligible] break, break"
Magic 77 (AWACS): "All players, Magic, picture - bogey
[unintelligible] zero-two-zero, forty-five, westbound, twenty thousand,
radar track."
Dirk 1(F-15 lead): "Dirk 1, contact there"
Dirk 1(F-15 lead): "Arm hot"
Dirk 1(F-15 lead): "Magic, Dirk, request "Purple Onion" (codeword for firing/engagement clearance)
Magic 77 (AWACS): "Standby"
Unknown: "Clear"
Dirk 2 (F-15 wingman): "Two, bandit, MiG-29.one-four, forty-five,
twenty-three thousand"
Magic 77 (AWACS): "Magic, the same contact.bogey.radar, twenty-
two thousand"
Dirk 1(F-15 lead): "Dirk 2, threat hostile, hostile"
Dirk 2 (F-15 wingman): "Dirk 2, engaged there"
Dirk 1(F-15 lead): "Bogey, bandit manoeuvring northbound"
Dirk 2 (F-15 wingman): "2 shows same.two's engaged"
Dirk 1(F-15 lead): "Press" (this is an ACM term for the wingman to
remain the engaged fighter)
Dirk 2 (F-15 wingman): "Zero-five-five, twenty-four, BRAA, twenty
thousand"
Dirk 1(F-15 lead): "Dirk, Combat jett" (combat jettison fuel tanks)
Magic 77 (AWACS): "Manoeuvring north, twenty-four thousand"
Magic 77 (AWACS): "Do you show two contacts?"
Dirk 1(F-15 lead): "Copy, two contacts, Sir"
Dirk 2 (F-15 wingman): "Fox 3!" (AIM-120 missile launch)
Unidentified: "I have, eh, Frank 35 up, that's about it, it's
all yours."
Unidentified: "Oh, he's uh descending to two-three-zero if
he's not there already"
Magic 77 (AWACS): "One bandit's turning hot [unintelligible].
Dirk, Magic, zero forty-one"
F-15 - "SHOOT!"
F-15 - "..een thousand.. nose - 8 miles"
F-15 - "Dirk 1, [unintelligible] on nose"
Magic 77 (AWACS): "He's up to twenty-four thousand.southbound"
Dirk 2 (F-15 wingman): "Splash 2, splash 2 MiG-29s! Bullseye, three-
six-zero, thirty six!"
F-15 - "Switch radar"
Magic 77 (AWACS): "Do you copy Splash 2?"
Dirk 1(F-15 lead): "A-firm, splash 2"
Magic 77 (AWACS): "At this time picture clear, picture clear"
Magic 77 (AWACS): "Clean.give me your.give me the bogey's
position"
Magic 77 (AWACS): "[unintelligible] zero-zero-five, thirty-five,
eastbound"




Если об этом, то
Видео с сербскими летчиками

Тот самый разговор

Еще интереснее. Как сбивали F-16CG-40D (88-0550 )  летчика Дэвида Голдфеина (Молотка 33).

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  anester ( Слушатель )
17 сен 2009 в 14:45
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Вот об этом совсем интересно, нет ли стенограммы, а то расшифровывать с голоса и с помехами для меня затруднительно.

Насколько я понял, сначала речь идет о бэндите, потом через несколько секунд, о проблемах у F-16. То есть сбит был в воздушном бою. Так?

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  kurill ( Слушатель )
17 сен 2009 в 15:23
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Ага, сбили с земли.

Crew/Description ----------------------------
LT COL (now BRIG GEN) David L. Goldfein Pilot #6
Opposing Solo Hammer 33 (F-16C, Serial 88-0550) (HMR3)
Hammer 31 (F-16C, Serial ?) - Pilot: ? (HMR1) ***
There may be a bit of confusion either among the pilots or myself. Later in the recording you will hear another callsign ending in "3" (Crank 73, or something of that nature), and Magic (AWACs) gets confused and says "Confirm again your callsign", since Hammer 33 ejected. Also confusion between Hammer One and Hammer Three (the incident pilot keeps asking "Hammer Three, can you hear me", usually with no response, since he is calling himself (if he is Hammer Three). Get it? Unknown (possibly Hammer 32 or 34?) - Pilot: ? (UKN1) Crank (?) 73 - Pilot: ? (CRK73) Magic Five-five - AWACs E-3 Sentry (MAGIC55)
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MAGIC55?- "Hammer, did you guys take a hit? Hammer, status?" - "Crank three magnum, three tango, one-five-four, twenty-four."
HMR3- "Okay, I&#039;ve got a problem."
HMR1- "I got your mark (?)." - "Hammer Three (unintelligible)."
HMR3- "Hammer Three&#039;s got engine problems now, lube low. Engine&#039;s--"
UKN1- "Hammer."
HMR3- "Hammer Three, can you hear me? Hammer One, can you hear me?"
HMR1- "Got you loud and clear. I&#039;ve got a mark."
HMR3- "Okay, I&#039;m headed westbound, I&#039;m headed westbound now."
UKN1- "Hammer, lets ah. .lets ah retrograde west."
MAGIC55?- "Hammer, (?), retrograde west, (?)."
HMR3- "I&#039;m gonna continue to glide as long as I can. Start findin&#039; me boys!" - (unintelligible)
MAGIC55- "Give me a flash, Hammer."
HMR3- "I&#039;m gonna shut down the engine, I&#039;m gonna try restart."
UKN1- "Hammer, your posit?"
MAGIC55- "Hammer, this is Magic, can you give me a flash?"
HMR3- "Unknown location. Passin&#039; fourteen-thousand feet."
UKN1- "Hammer Three-three, you got the visual?" - "Two-four-zero."
HMR3- "Roger, I&#039;m headed two-four-zero. Thirteen-thousand feet."
MAGIC55- "Hammer three, Magic bullseye posit if able." - "(?) three-four-two for seventeen for Hammer Three."
HMR3- "Engine&#039;s definetally quit, I&#039;m glidin&#039; her boys. Passin&#039; ten-thousand. Three, ya got me..three you got me on--? Three, can you hear me?"
HMR1- "I&#039;ve gotcha loud and clear now."
HMR3- "Roger, do you have me on radar?"
MAGIC55- "And Hammer Three, Magic Five-five, confirm your bullseye, two-six-zero, twenty miles, westbound."
HMR3- "I can&#039;t be positive off of that." - "They&#039;ve, ah, lost everything (?)." (explains why Hammer 33 does not know where he is at, lost all avionics and his "bullseye display".)
MAGIC55- "I&#039;ve got a track from that, two-five-five, twenty-two, twenty-thousand, westbound." (AWACs has another "blip" on their radar scope near what he believes is Hammer 33&#039;s contact.) - "Roger, (?)"
MAGIC55- "Copy."
UKN1- "Can you give us your posit from that?"
HMR3- "Negative (static for almost 8 seconds, talking about AAA)." (Hammer 33 sees some AAA and is trying to reference other pilots to where he is in relation to the AAA.)
UKN1- "Okay. We see that triple-a as well." - "Hammer Three, whats, ah, your position above the cloud deck from that, ah, triple-a?"
UKN1- "Okay. Three&#039;s got a lock." (This pilot was able to lock his radar onto Hammer 33 and get his definate position.)
MAGIC55- Say bullseye posit if able.
UKN1- "That two-thirty. . .positio-position, two-thirty-two for twenty-eight."
MAGIC55- "Copy, contact there."
CRK73- "Three&#039;s contact there also."
MAGIC55- "Copy, confirm again your callsign." - "Tell Hammer Three that I&#039;ve got a lock on &#039;em."
CRK73- "Magic,
CRANK(?) seven-three."
MAGIC55- "Seven-three Magic, go ahead."
CRK73- "Did you get the frequency to work some SAR assets with you?"
MAGIC55- "We&#039;re workin&#039; on it right now."

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